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Ernesto
Posted on: July 25th, 2005, 6:01pm Quote Report to Moderator
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OK, time for a silly question, but is something I've always wondered.
The antagonism between Robert and Morrissey is legendary, but did you (in The Cure or later) ever met with The Smiths or coincide with them at a gig or somewhere else? do you like their music or have the same feelings as Robert?
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Pierrig
Posted on: July 25th, 2005, 7:36pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Interesting question Ernesto! I'm looking forward to Lol's answer on this one!

I personally believe than the Moz-Bob antagonism comes from a clash of super-gigantic egos. I'm not sure that Lol would let this kind of egomania rules his judgement. But I might be wrong (and I secretely dream of Johnny Marr appearing on one of Levinhurst's future album!)
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Lol
Posted on: July 26th, 2005, 7:57am Quote Report to Moderator
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Yes actually I  do like Morrissey's music in fact I went to see him play the last time he was here in Los Angeles..it was a great show and the last album was good too I thought. I liked the Smiths too.

However I have to say Robert is quite justified in his ire as the whole situation was started as I distinctly  recall by... ..Morrissey!

We had never met Morrissey or the Smiths at that point and Morrissey  made a very uncalled for remark concerning Robert in the English press.I never understood why as we or Robert had done nothing to upset him that I could think of..but after that it kind of snowballed....  especially as Journalists love feuds!!

Also a true fact  for you : the 2nd Presence album (which was recorded but never released) was produced by John Porter who was involved with The Smiths early on.


look out #3 is on its way and Mikey D is in the crew!
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Posted on: July 26th, 2005, 11:09am Quote Report to Moderator
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Likewise I really liked Morrissey's last album.I can't bring myself to go to see him play again though.I saw The Smiths on that first tour for the first album and they did 20 minutes and disappeared  .We were only young and had forked out big money for a ticket. (probably 3 hahahaha) . They cheated us . I won't forgive !

Morrissey's last album was rather wonderful - way better than any smiths album ever in my opinion .I really think the smiths are way overrated personally.
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Pierrig
Posted on: July 26th, 2005, 12:58pm Quote Report to Moderator
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I saw Morrissey last year for the YATQ tour. Fantastic! A long dream finally came true, and I loved every minute of it!

Lol, Morrissey is known for attacking anything that threatens him. He probably realized that The Cure was starting to be a real threat and competitio for The Smith, and he started his little ego crusade.

The funniest part was when he recorded this song with Siouxsie. I can imagine the Sioux being all like "Take that fat Bob!"!

Seriously, last year was great for concerts. I saw a bunch of artists I always wanted to see but never had the opportunity to, like Morrissey, Siouxsie and Madonna (yes, I did)
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Ernesto
Posted on: July 26th, 2005, 5:56pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Robert's ego vs. Moz's ego = the big bang

Well, Morrissey has always been knowned for his loose tongue. He's such a fine lyricist and an Oscar Wilde fan, so you couldn't expect otherwise.

It's been said John Porter was another target of his, as he used to spent so much with Johnny Marr producing and recording while Moz was doing not much more than waiting the time to do his part.

Thanks Lol!

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Ernesto
Posted on: July 26th, 2005, 5:59pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Mmmmm... Levinhurst & Marr... 

*Ernesto starts heavy drooling* 
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Pierrig
Posted on: July 26th, 2005, 8:16pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Morrissey was drinking? Damn, I sure would love to see that!

Yes, Morrissey is still a splendid piece of a man! Still taking his shirt off on stage, and still making me, I would you say that Ernesto?, oh yes, drooling heavily...
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Ernesto
Posted on: July 27th, 2005, 5:45pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Yeah, Moz has aged a lot, he looks like a school teacher now. Anyway, his voice is better than ever. When in Smiths it was a bit rawer, now is much more melodic.

About the shirt taking off, I'd rather pass!


*Ernesto sits on a table waiting patiently for all the heavy drooling to dry*
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Lostboy
Posted on: August 11th, 2005, 5:24pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Hi.
I always found Morrisey as a very smart and kind person...maybe too narcisist,thats true.
I didnt know the origin of that feud,but Lol has clarified it to me.
I laughed a lot when once Robert said that he used to be vegetarian but when Mozz made the "meat is murder" album he went and took a big chop,hehe
is sth that just happens sometimes...u cant stand another person..and there is not an aparent reason for it.
His lyrics changed my life as an adolescent,"vivahate" is still one of my fav albums to play on summer,its so nostalgic...i love it.
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Pierrig
Posted on: August 11th, 2005, 5:27pm Quote Report to Moderator
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The Smiths / Morrissey are almost as important to me as The Cure is.
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Ernesto
Posted on: August 11th, 2005, 6:38pm Quote Report to Moderator
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For a long long time I refused to listen any Morrissey solo, since I couldn't bare to listen to him singing other music than Johnny Marr's.

It was tough at the beginning but I finally made up my mind and now Moz is one of the greatest on my top list - I'm still on discovery phase.
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Cult Hero
Posted on: August 23rd, 2005, 12:34pm Quote Report to Moderator
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I love Moz and I love Johnny Marr as well. It would be wonderful if someday the two of them decided to either work together again or reform The Smiths. Hey, one can dream! 
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Ernesto
Posted on: August 23rd, 2005, 6:00pm Quote Report to Moderator
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I'd be happy just to know that Johnny Marr could get a recognition level similar to Mozzer's. Marr is so underrated now and he's stuck in the shadows.
He doesn't deserve it.
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Mike. T
Posted on: August 24th, 2005, 4:50pm Quote Report to Moderator
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True, Johnny Marr was the true genius behind The Smiths, he did write all the music after all.

He went on to write some superb music with Matt Johnson of The The. Some of the Electronic material was excellent too.

I've never liked Moz. Very overated and one of the worst gigs i've ever seen.
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